DBK: Is the Euro Army you’ve repeatedly mentioned now becoming a reality?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: For Europe, it’s inevitable to build a defense force without the USA, one that isn’t blocked by countries that don’t understand European interests. Trump has made the world insecure and is a dangerous player in this game.
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DBK: You say the borderline behavior of Trump and Vance is devastating. How should we understand this statement?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Well, these two actors are exemplary narcissistic borderline types, which we in Europe had with one of the most famous actors, Klaus Kinski. An interview with Klaus Kinski was already difficult, but with 2 of this kind, you have little chance of success.
DBK: What chances do European states have of negotiating a deal with Trump?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Yes, I wish good luck to those who want to travel to America as therapists to talk to a wall. Borderliners understand only one language: They must be shouted at with an adult ego and brought to the same level. Since this doesn’t last very long and the borderliner then tends to switch to the child ego, this will be a task for years, by which time the USA will probably have a new president. It’s also not possible to have a sensible communication with 2 borderliners simultaneously, as they would constantly reinforce each other. With borderliners, you have a chance to speak alone, but the influence of like-minded people in the party will tear everything apart and you’ll have wasted hours for nothing.
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DBK: So how can Europe deal with the USA? Jogy Wolfmeyer: What hurts borderliners the most is when they’re ignored. The moment the borderliner is no longer the center of attention, he will very gently approach others and inconspicuously mingle among the crowd as a listener. Especially the apology demanded by Trump and Vance will never be heard from borderliners, because they always see themselves as right, and whoever is right doesn’t apologize. The narcissistic borderliner always wants to hear how super and extraordinarily important he is.
DBK: If we observe Zelenskyy’s behavior at the press conference. What could he have done differently?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Nothing. He was exposed to the anger of two narcissists who were already spoiling for a fight from the beginning. He ventured wounded into a shark tank and survived because he didn’t play along.
The action of blocking military aid to Ukraine is typical behavior of the hurt child that narcissists suffer from when they don’t get what they want. You can see it like a toddler who would rather break the toy before following the mother’s request to let the little brother play with it too.
DBK: Hungary has also already announced the blockade of Ukraine aid, how should we deal with Orban?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Orban is the European Trump, who also had a defeat because the EU accuses him of behaving totalitarian. This is not about Trump, but about taking revenge on the EU for the constant reprimands. With Orban too, ignoring is the only way to appease this sulking child.
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DBK: Why is a Zelenskyy the ideal target for Trump, Vance, and Orban?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: The truth is much more shocking than understandable. In secret, they admire this man. His courage, his statesmanlike appearance. His aura that he doesn’t need a suit to appear serious, because he has proven that he stands up for his country and even takes up arms himself. The fear that the hero could steal the show from the clown is very threatening for a borderliner, which is why he tries to make him look ridiculous.
The powder puff faction of Trump, Vance, and Orban, who prefer to have their hair done by the hairdresser for 3 hours and let the taxpayer foot the bill, can hardly hold a candle to other statesmen and perceive them as a great threat.
DBK: What options do the Europeans have now?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Europe must quickly prepare for the revenge of the toddler who steps on the toy before someone else gets it. I wouldn’t waste any more energy sitting at a table with a fool who lives in his bubble. Europe must finally understand that they have an advantage over the USA and have a higher population share. Europe must finally develop the pride that it is the real superpower. More than ever, states will turn to Europe if the USA remains so unpredictable with Trump and his team.
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DBK: Was it somehow necessary for the USA to fall apart right now to make Europe strong?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Trump has ignited a turbo in Europe through the announcement of import tariffs, which will have a very negative effect on the USA. The world will soon witness how the US economy will disappear into insignificance. Trump has now isolated the Americans from the rest of the world and created a new China.