DBK: According to international media, the Gaza war is history?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: The war between Afghanistan and Pakistan was also considered history by the international media, wasn’t it? We should stay in reality. This war between Israel and the Palestinians has been raging for almost 80 years and countless peace deals. The radical Zionists in Israel will not allow peace, just as the radical Palestinians won’t. Everyone still has a score to settle with the other, and the Zionists have not succeeded in expelling the Palestinians from the land promised to them by their God. The Zionist Jews find it very difficult to let democratic states dictate anything to them, as they want to act as they please.
DBK: The media say that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Doesn’t that make Israel preferable?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Democracy can be interpreted in different ways. A democracy that doesn’t vote out the Israeli Prime Minister (Yitzhak Rabin, assassinated on November 4, 1995, by Zionists) but allows him to be murdered is a rather peculiar understanding of democracy. Anyone who demands peace in Gaza as a head of government in Israel is, the next day, history in a Yiddish-democratic way.
DBK: What will happen in Israel in the coming days?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: What Zionist Israelis always do. They prepare the next attack on a country that currently satisfies their hunger for power in the Middle East. Netanyahu recently announced again that Iran is building nuclear weapons and that China should be bombed as well.
DBK: Israel, a small country, is taking on much larger countries. How do they plan to do that?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Netanyahu seems to have something on Trump, otherwise he wouldn’t be running after him like a poodle, doing everything Bibi wants. The Americans should have set boundaries for the Israelis long ago, but this didn’t happen under the Democrats or the Republicans. Or actually, there was a Democrat who wanted to keep Israel on a short leash and demanded a nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Israel and the recognition of the state of Palestine. He was “voted out” on November 22, 1963, in a Yiddish-democratic way. After Kennedy, politicians never dared to criticize the state of Israel again, partly because of the constant accusation that criticizing Israel constitutes anti-Semitism, and partly because of the significant influence of Zionists in American politics and media.
DBK: Why have European states watched this for years, and why has there now been a shift?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: The Zionists themselves are to blame because they have played the anti-Semitism card too often and for trivial matters. The Germans and Austrians have also shown that they still tremble with guilt over the Second World War when it comes to Israel and the Jews. Moreover, the German Chancellor is a fervent supporter of the Zionists, and we have no sources in Europe about who is funded by organizations similar to AIPAC, but there is certainly Israeli influence on politicians in Europe as well.
DBK: A brief side question: You often hear that, as a homosexual, you would have little chance of surviving in Palestine. How do you deal with this issue?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: I would probably have a better chance of surviving as a homosexual if I behaved discreetly than a Christian in the West Bank who is expelled or murdered by Jewish Zionists. The big problem is that only the things that serve Zionist propaganda are highlighted here. In truth, Israel is a state that does not adhere to European rule of law but is a fundamentalist religious state that does not distinguish between religion and politics. The achievement of a secular state is a prerequisite for a democracy, which Israel has failed to establish for years. Therefore, for me, the Israeli state is not a democracy but a rogue state. Anyone who sees it differently didn’t pay attention in school.
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DBK: During the discussion on ORF, Sobotka was a staunch defender of Israel and called the Palestinians terrorists.
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Honestly? A party that handed out flowers during Hitler’s invasion and greeted Austria’s new savior with “Heil” is, of course, susceptible to propaganda from one side. Moreover, Sobotka doesn’t have a higher education and is therefore not very well-versed in history. Simply saying, “I know someone from Israel and Palestine,” doesn’t make Kurz or Sobotka Middle East experts. It was deliberate propaganda by ORF to pit an inexperienced counterpart against Sobotka. Any historian would have dismantled Sobotka in two seconds when he started claiming that the Palestinians attacked the Israelis. The Nakba happened before the Intifada. The narrative that everything began on October 7, 2023, is Zionist propaganda meant to prevent a naive societal layer from researching the history of the conflict. The Israelis even shot at the British because they didn’t want their state controlled by European overseers. To this day, Israel does not recognize the International Criminal Court, which says enough about this supposed democracy.
Despite our less-than-ideal view of the Egyptian government, it is more of a democracy than Israel’s.
DBK: Israel continues to insist on controlling borders outside its territory.
Jogy Wolfmeyer: Yes, it’s astonishing that we’ve watched this for years and supported this kind of occupation. Imagine, to stick with Sobotka the history expert, Slovakia invades Lower Austria, expels all citizens in the Weinviertel, and builds a wall from Laa an der Thaya to Gänserndorf to allegedly prevent attacks from the Czechs and Hungarians. If Sobotka and his gullible ÖVP crew then formed a liberation army, we’d call them ÖVP terrorists. The perspective on Gaza is the same as this example, except in Europe, Hamas would be the hero fighting against an illegitimate occupation. But since we don’t like Muslims, they must be terrorists. And that’s demonstrably a fact, no matter how you spin it. The media in Europe have only spread Israeli war propaganda instead of engaging with the war historically. Sure, neither side has covered itself in glory, but Israel’s occupation, genocide, and expulsion of Palestinians were financed by the USA and Europeans, while the Palestinians are blamed when, as a country without a highly funded military, they face a Western-funded killing machine and beg for help from Arab countries. Imagine the terrorist state of Sobotka’s Lower Austria asking the Germans for help because they were occupied by the good Slovakia. The reporting in European and American media shows how untrustworthy we are and how hatefully society has been indoctrinated.
DBK: So, would you say Hamas is not a terrorist organization?
Jogy Wolfmeyer: If Sobotka wants to voluntarily be a terrorist for standing against an illegal occupation, then they are, but then I’ll call Sobotka a terrorist leader from now on. And that’s because he sides with the actual terrorist, Israel. If Israel wants to shed its terrorist state image, a deradicalization must take place in Israel. Schools must be monitored to ensure they don’t teach radical religious Zionist doctrines but rather a secular understanding of democracy.
Only when all this happens will I recognize Israel as a democracy, but not before!